Bricking my iPhone (updated)
I guess Apple was telling the truth.
I decided to try the 1.1.1 iPhone update on my unlocked and hacked phone. The process went along just fine until the iPhone restarted. Then I got a message on the screen that I had an incorrect SIM. I took the SIM out of the iPhone and put it in my old Treo, and it worked—I called my phone and it rang as expected.
Guess I’ll be headed to an AT&T store soon to try and get a new SIM card…
[Update]
Walked (well, more like ran) over to the nearest AT&T store. I told them my iPhone stopped working and that iTunes told me I needed a new SIM card (both true). The guy said no problem, and handed me a new SIM. He told me to install it, connect to iTunes, and activate the SIM with my existing account. Just got back, popped in the SIM, and no luck—getting the same errors.
[Update x2]
I went to an Apple Store this morning and had to wait a long time for a genius, so I made an appointment for the afternoon. Went in, showed them my phone, and the guy said “it appears that someone tampered with the software on this phone” and said there’s nothing he could do. I asked him to restore it, and he said he tried, but nothing changed. He then pointed to the notice in the store that says not to hack the phone, and told me the only thing I could do was buy a new one.
I asked if the store’s policy was that they can’t fix it and won’t replace it, and he said “yes.” While I was there, I fixed another woman’s nano who was waiting… oh, the irony. So I bought a new phone.
Bottom line, Apple appears to be adamant that you’re screwed if you’ve messed with your phone in any way.
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Comments (159)
My iPhone showed the same SIM message and seemed to need re-activation after applying 1.1.1.
But here's the punch line: it is not unlocked or hacked in any way.
I let it sit there for a minute or two and it proceeded to a regular SIM unlock screen (mine is pw protected) and now works just fine.
Maybe you yanked the SIM prematurely?
-dan
Posted by danham
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September 27, 2007 3:11 PM
@danham
exactly the same as your situation.
i think apple and att is probably going to get quite a few panic phone calls.
-also dan
Posted by dan | September 27, 2007 3:20 PM
Hackint0sh is reporting that 1.1.1 bricks SIM unlocked iPhones. Its really bizarre behaveour by Apple. Most of the people with unlocked phones have been Apple fans. Many, like myself (since 1998 with 5 computer purchases, plus assorted iPods and software) are feeling rather shat upon. Make war on your most loyal fans. Great marketing strategy Steve!
Posted by Herbie | September 27, 2007 3:29 PM
this happened to me the other day only I did NOT hack my iphone.
it happened to me because I had a Phone case that has MAGNETS!!!
DO NOT USE MAGNETIC CASES WITH THE iPHONE!!!
Posted by ADrian | September 27, 2007 4:38 PM
check your IMEI, your IMEI should changed to wrong one. it is weird...
Posted by gunsmith | September 27, 2007 4:57 PM
IMEI look like 004999010640000. Restart your iPhone with your AT&T sim card insterted, when the "Activate iPhone" show up and click the "i" button, then you will see....
Posted by gunsmith | September 27, 2007 5:25 PM
Have you now tried a full restore again (post 1.1.1. update), then tried to re-activate with the new SIM AT&T gave you?
Posted by zoetrope
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September 27, 2007 5:37 PM
I have the same problem, the sim card is fine, i even had it replaced at the ATT store. I still have the "incorrect sim" error, if anybody knows a solution please let me know
Posted by Ross | September 27, 2007 5:44 PM
Can't restore, because iTunes doesn't let me get to that main iPhone screen.
Posted by jonseff
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September 27, 2007 5:45 PM
So heres the deal. Last night I tried sw unlocking my phone for a second time after doing a restore to 1.0.2. After I performed all the necessary steps it gave me a 'No Signal' where the bars should be. I then proceeded to activate the iPhone via itunes after a complete restore. Once getting a phone number and such it still gave me the 'No Signal' error. I then updated to 1.1.1 earlier and it 'bricked' my iPhone givng me the 'Invalid Sim' error. But what I am curious to find out is if I went to get a virgin sim from att and put it in the phone, will it recognize it and ask me to activate it? or will it still give me the invalid sim error?
Posted by Gambit | September 27, 2007 5:55 PM
It happened to mine to... the weird thing... is that even with the iPhone with this "incorrect SIM" messege I still hear from the Mail.app from the iPhone getting new messages... :-0
Posted by Roberto Verli | September 27, 2007 5:57 PM
I have the exact same problem, my phone was jailedbreakd, not unlocked, used with it's original ATT sim card (never even poped it-out), and I still get the incorrect SIM error.
Posted by Flavio Avendano | September 27, 2007 6:02 PM
If you put the phone in rescue mode or whatever, then iTunes will let you restore it, but I don't have a fresh SIM card to try.
Posted by Chad | September 27, 2007 6:05 PM
AGHGGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!
Should.... have... waited.... but... no...... I'm... stupid........
iScrewed (aka 1.1.1)
Posted by David | September 27, 2007 6:25 PM
Check you IMEI number on the back against the one on the activation svreen (behind the "i"). If you see 004999010640000 on screen you are screwed (for now).
Posted by Carlo | September 27, 2007 6:44 PM
have you tried putting the phone in restore mode? hold the pwr+menu btns for a long time, and it will show up a yellow triangle on the screen.
Posted by toxicshock | September 27, 2007 6:55 PM
Wow that sucks...if only Apple had warned iPhone users about this....oh wait..
Posted by jonkeegan
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September 27, 2007 7:01 PM
Im having the incorrect sim problem too.. I did unlock my phone to try it out but i am already an ATT customer and i did have some 3rd party apps. Few days ago i just decided to restore to factory. Now since i did the 1.1.1 update, i have the Incorrect sim issue. Maybe someone or Apple can just come out with a restore to Apple out of the box and i will do that and be happy and not hack into it again..
Posted by Brian | September 27, 2007 7:11 PM
@ Herbie
So by your logic, the fact that they told you this would happen yet you did it anyway is somehow Steve's fault? Im not saying that unlocking it is a bad thing but you are taking money right out of his pocket when you unlocked it (they get a portion of your monthly fee) in the first place. So who is shitting on who.
Posted by Kinmar | September 27, 2007 7:40 PM
I was at Apple Freehold today and this guy right next to me at the Genius Bar had the same problem. I didn't realize at the time that it was because of this, but now that I think about it, he'd probably done the same. Man, I hope this gets resolved.
Posted by Vineet Shah | September 27, 2007 8:55 PM
Are you really expecting to receive sympathy?
I understand hacking your phone for 3rd party apps, but you will receive no sympathy for the problems related to unlocking your phone. I agree it sucks (a lot), but we all knew this would happen.
You should have just waited a week or so like the rest of the world, and the iPhone unlock dev team will have a fix for this (they already promised a fix within a week).
Posted by xxdesmus | September 27, 2007 9:10 PM
Mine went fine, and I had installer.app installed with about a dozen apps. It just doesnt show the apps anymore which is fine. I can wait for the tappApp update.
Posted by Fish | September 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Three weeks ago, the suckers were the ones who'd bought $599 8GB iPhones.
Today, the suckers are the ones who bought $599 8GB iPhones, unlocked and *bricked* them.
Welcome to the new Apple service standard!
Posted by apetrelli | September 27, 2007 10:43 PM
My have the incorrect error but my IMEI match the one on the back, so if it matches then what should I do next?
Posted by Dennis | September 27, 2007 10:57 PM
@xxdesmus: Drop the attitude. We're not looking for sympathy -- we're reporting on what happens when this happens. We're Macworld. This is what we do. We'll buy Jon a new phone if need be -- he bricked his phone in the interest of finding out what would happen.
Posted by Jason Snell
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September 27, 2007 11:07 PM
I got the exact same thing!
I followed the advice here from webtrout23:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5388777
I think I had to futz with it a bit afterword, but it got me back up and running.
I saw somebody mention that they had a keycode lock on their phone. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I have one too, and when I finally got my iPhone working again, it asked me to enter it, but had a different screen (it was asking for my "password" and not my "keycode" and there was a textbox rather than four boxes)
Posted by Brian | September 27, 2007 11:11 PM
iBrick because iCan :)
-Steve Jobs
Posted by Mike | September 27, 2007 11:20 PM
I wonder what we are going to do with the iPhones that are in Australia currently running on Telstra's network?
No hope of getting an AT&T signal down here.
Perhaps there will be an eBay flood of "cheap" iPhones from countries that don't have AT&T service?
Or will we wait for an iphonesimmfree fix?
Posted by Philip Greenwood | September 27, 2007 11:22 PM
If Apple warned us not to hit our iPhones with hammers, there would be like 1% of users who would hit them with hammers and then whine about how Apple should have made them hammer-proof. As a long time Mac user I feel justified in saying buh-bye, do not let the shiny glass door of the Apple Store hit you on the ass on the way out. Who needs you? Get a Vista PC and a Windows Mobile, that will give you something to complain about.
Posted by Fred Hamranhansenhansen | September 27, 2007 11:57 PM
I posted this over at MacRumors after going through this experience last week and only finding one reference (without an answer) to it online. The standard itunes "restore" doesn't work when the iphone is in this condition. Btw, we had lost the pre-installed factory sim card (set on a counter within a toddler's reach) so I went to the local ATT store got a new one. Explained that I had ordered the phone from Apple, not yet activated it, and was going to set up an acct online so they wouldn't scan the sim in store and tie it to an acct.
We had this exact same issue (unknown sim, unknow imei) after trying to unlock. The iphone sat on the mantle for several days until we figured out the "hard reset" feature--it was so fubar'd that we couldn't run a restore because itunes wouldn't touch it. It was immensely frustrating because we'd been using it on our wi-fi network as a portable browser/email client/ipod/photo viewer and then we lost all functionality after running the anysim unlock.
Open itunes on your computer. Don't connect your phone to your computer, but do attach the dock to the bottom of the phone. Hold down the "Home" (not the sleep) button for a few seconds. Keep holding it down while you plug in the USB to your computer. Keep holding it down until itunes sees it and starts the software reset. It will take over and walk you through it and when it's done, your phone will be in the same state it was when it came out of the box. Then you can start all over again!
FYI, even in the very screwed up no sim/imei state, you can still ssh into the iphone to recover your data. Be sure to ssh in as root@[iphoneipaddress].
Out of all the tutorials we read, the most helpful (imo) was http://iphone.unlock.no/ but they neglected to mention that you'll have to reboot and then run jailbreak even after the unlocking tutorial before an invalid sim error will go away.
Posted by draeya | September 28, 2007 12:06 AM
>>Jason Snell:
We'll buy Jon a new phone if need be
Can I also have a new phone. I dont have an IPhone tho, so this isnt a problem for me, but would like a new phone though ;)
Posted by Kris Adams | September 28, 2007 1:37 AM
@kinmar I activated using ATT Go Phone which won't roam here in Europe - Apple are still getting their cut of $29.99 per month for a service I cant use. I would have been happy to pay for an unlock code from Apple if they would have sold me one. Not complaining about that, not even that I have no way of getting the $100 credit. Went into the thing with my eyes open. What I am complaining about is that Apple have released software designed to stop my phone from working.
Posted by Herbie | September 28, 2007 1:45 AM
Here's the thing; it's already been ruled illegal to actively prevent a consumer from unlocking a phone both in the US and in Europe.
So, not only is it a bad customer service mistake of the first order but if even a single solitary individual can prove that something that Apple did to make this update Brick unlocked phones was intentional they will be buried with a class action lawsuit faster than you can say "Stevo - unBrick my iPhone or give me another one.'
Hot on the heels of the iPhone price cut, this move is certain to piss off the most powerful and influential of Apple devotee's.
And for those of you slamming people for "not waiting" or for unlocking their phones in the first place, get a clue. No one tells you how to drive your car or what roads you can travel do they? Just what makes you think that bricking phones that people have unlocked is ok under any circumstances? (especially when the margins on iPhones are among the best if not THE BEST handset margins ever.
Personally I don't think it is going to kill them to lose a small slice of a revenue on a few thousand people a year. It's not as if the company is failing to make money in dozens of ways. To me the collateral damage to the company's reputation is far, far worse than the small possible revenue loss sustained by such a small percentage of iPhone users not being on AT$T.
Oliver Starr
http://us.blognation.com
Posted by Oliver Starr | September 28, 2007 4:41 AM
If your device gives you the "SIM Locked" message after a software update then it is probably because you have set a PIN lock. Remove your SIM and put it in another device, switch off the SIM lock then reinsert into your iPhone. It should activate fine after that!
Posted by Dominic | September 28, 2007 5:02 AM
It is odd that Apple, the self-proclaimed user-friendly company, would do such a thing. First the exclusivity deal with AT&T, and now this. One company's strategy comes to mind - Microsoft.
Posted by Bonanza | September 28, 2007 5:25 AM
I think he is referring to Herbie's comment, about making war with loyal fans, not the article writer.
If someone wants to hack their phone to use with another network, one that the original company haven't got an agreement with, then get warned that the lock may happen, then continue anyway, well then they deserve all they get imo.
Posted by AJJ | September 28, 2007 6:08 AM
I can almost see Steve Jobs getting nailed with bricked iphone "drive-by's" as he strolls through Palo Alto. It's so sad that Apple decided to behave this way. It seems the relationship with AT&T has been rubbing off on them.
Posted by David W | September 28, 2007 6:22 AM
I am a confirmed Apple fan and user. I own several Apple computers, an iPod, Airport, etc., stock in the firm, and have made Mac users out of my entire family and many friends, and even chance acquaintances. As a computer teacher, I have made more converts to Mac. I have been responsible for hundreds of sales over the years of everything from computers to iPod (even before I bought stock).
I have been waiting for and requesting a product like iPhone for years.
However, that said, I am not like some of the apparently brain-dead Mac addicts I see on these pages. I am sick and tired of Apple's often imperious and non-responsive ways - often directed at those of us who have helped them to even survive this long.
They (and some of the posters!) seem to think that it's OK that they can "punish" us for "hacking" iPhones - who do they think they are? Our daddies? We should have had the right from the outset to choose our own providers. For a number of reasons, I will NEVER use AT&T (or the chosen providers in Europe, where I am currently residing, who are even worse than AT&T).
I advise every iPhone or Mac product user to write Apple, (as I have), and tell Steve and his merry men that we are NOT going to roll over and succumb to this BS.
I will not buy or use one (as much as I would love one) until they fix the glitches, add 3G capability, add some needed features, and fix a few other deficiencies, and most particularly until they drop the notion that Apple can dictate to us what providers and services we will use.
As for those of you defending Apple and Steve on this - all I can say is that I hope your collective lobotomies heal some day. Being a dedicated fan and user does NOT mean I will roll over for anything some corporate fascist tells me to. Apple is again exhibiting some nasty traits I never liked in them OR the Dark Side they are starting to resemble in more than their choice of chips - those of a megalomaniac control freak.
Posted by FJT | September 28, 2007 6:37 AM
You bought an iPhone knowing AT&T was the service provider. You unlocked a phone, breaking the agreement you made with Apple that you would use the provider that works with the phone.
Now you have all these whiners crying because Apple did what Apple had to do. Oh boo hoo! I bought this knowing AT&T was the provider and am now going to cry about it.
Ridiculous!
Posted by Tyk | September 28, 2007 7:11 AM
If you unlocked you are a total idiot, why on earth did you do something "WHEN" you knew it would lock your phone.
I laugh in your face all of you, typical here in good old Blightly we wait until the test monkeys (you lot) have broken their toys and we learn what not to do. And don't end up spending hundreds of pounds on somthing that could die in ten seconds if we were DUMB!
Ha Ha
Posted by Leon | September 28, 2007 7:34 AM
It's not just the hacked iPhones that are reported to have problems, though - even supposedly unmodified iPhones are being reported as seeing data loss after this update.
Posted by Camera Core | September 28, 2007 8:18 AM
Thanks for the update on what happens Macworld...
I have an apple iphone 8gb unlocked and running on Orange in the UK. I am planning to wait to see what the Dev team come up with but I am in no rush to get the amazing new features lol
You article is very helpful
Posted by MacDuff | September 28, 2007 8:47 AM
It's a fact the world does not want to have an Apple product (usually good) deliberately restricted in any way (evil Mr Jobs). The iPhone could easily be more profitable if delivered unlocked - they could sell an order of magnitude more units and never need any ATT tie in: it's what the market demands.
Posted by Olly | September 28, 2007 9:16 AM
I agree with Vineet Shah. You will get no sympathy from me. I truly hope that ATT doesn't give you a replacement phone. If you hack your phone, don't expect a refund or a new device when updates make it a brick.
Posted by Anthony R. | September 28, 2007 9:26 AM
My question is: can you chose NOT to install the update?
Currently with an unlocked iPhone I am somewhat content. The new features are certainly nice, but, alas, the iPhone in its pre 1.1 configuration is still a hell of a lot better than every other phone I've used. I would just like to be able to sync with iCal and Address Book. Anything else, I can wait for the developer community to hash out as I do not want to brick my phone.
According to Apple's site it seems you can chose NOT to install the update. Can anyone verify this?
Posted by Ted | September 28, 2007 9:52 AM
This why you should have bought a more open phone, like the N95.
I really can't believe anyone "not a developer" would be stupid enough to try updating this phone with the warning that it would brick your phone and many people have. Now we know the truth. There seems to a lack of intelligence with iPhone owners. It is probably a side effect of being brainwashed by Apple.
Posted by Frank Dasonne | September 28, 2007 10:10 AM
Same situation here. Only difference is when I tried to unlock (I am still AT&T customer just dont like the idea of being locked) the software said unlock failed. I restored the phone and everything was fine. So I tried the 1.1.1 update and now it's bricked.
Posted by AC | September 28, 2007 10:22 AM
HAHAHA!! I guess Apple/iPhone-lovers are finding out that their saintly guru, Steve Jobs, is nothing but another greedy, ego-maniacal capitalist that would rather punish those who don't do as he says (use their OBSCENELY(!) over-priced phones on the network HE chooses) than provide an upgrade that doesn't trash their phone. Don't fool yourself into thinking they couldn't avoid this. It is FAR more believable that Apple software engineers were told to RUSH a bomb into the upgrade to teach infidels a lesson. So what's it like being subjected to aversion therapy?
Posted by Seauvan | September 28, 2007 10:52 AM
I really don't understand why people are up-in-arms about this. They made the choice to break their warranties and hack their iPhones. What is there to complain about? Why act like Apple is somehow screwing it's users? They didn't do it. You did and assumed your own risk. So sorry.
You wouldn't blame GM if you tried to install a lawn mower engine into your Corvette, would you? Suck it up and accept responsblity for your warranty-voiding actions already.
Posted by John | September 28, 2007 10:54 AM
"He bricked his phone in the interest of finding out what would happen."
That's reminiscent of the old Billy Crystal / Christopher Guest sketch about the two guys who would jam a 8-inch replica of the Empire State Building up their noses, just to see how far in they could get it to go.
Posted by Charlie | September 28, 2007 11:48 AM
Jason, don't clutter up xxdesmus' perfectly good diatribe with reason and logic.
Thanks to Jonathan for taking a bullet for the rest of us.
Posted by hex
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September 28, 2007 11:54 AM
Summary: Update worked and did not brick iPhone w/ installer.app
----
I'm downloading the 1.1.1 update now... I have installer.app installed as well, with only three or four apps, plus SummerBoard and a few themes.
I'm not expecting this to brick the iPhone, but I'll admit that I'm nervous. I bought the iPhone in Denver on July 14th and paid ... ahem ... the *full* price.
Ok, the iPhone just came alive with the "Please connect ti iTunes" screeen, and now it is on the Apple logo w/ the spinning activity bars and the Powerbook is displaying the "Updating iPhone software" message.
Now the Powerbook dialog has changed to "Verifiying iPhone firmware..." Why am I so nervous?? As an aside, iTunes continued playing the whole time. Kinda nice, but weird...
The dialog has now changed to "Updating iPhone software", and the Apple logo is still present on the iPhone.
The update just completed. Moment of truth: the iPhone's screen just changed to "Connect to iTunes for activation", which it did on its own. The activation occurred automatically, completed error-free and... the phone still works, but as pointed out in an earlier post - installer.app appears to be gone, as is SummerBoard.
Posted by John Minnihan | September 28, 2007 11:56 AM
The loss of a few thousand phones (i.e., the revenue from their accounts) will be more than exceeded by the fact that many of these people will, like true Apple fans, spend another few hundred dollars (eventually) for a new iPhone. What will not go away, however, are articles on the front page of BBC's web site pointing out that Apple, as promised has managed to disable phones entirely with this update, and has been very tight-lipped about why third-party apps are also now disabled. I agree that unlocked phones deserve what happened, but there is nothing that prevents people from installing third party apps, and why would Apple sabotage them? Unless of course, they have their own software ready to go...or their rumored Newton replacement will appear in a few months. Nevertheless, a statement from an Apple representative about intentions now (since the consequences of the update have created this much controversy) would be a good PR move,and I hope that Jobs or Schiller or someone high up in Apple is bothering to monitor this forum and others.
Ishan Bhattacharya, MD
Posted by Ishan Bhattacharya | September 28, 2007 12:44 PM
I never updated itunes 7.0.54.Two week ago I learned from the dev's team a way or a command not to let Iphone upgrade firmware.I did it.
Now every time I connect to itunes to update iPhone software it answers:"you are updated with the latest version 1.0.2
I am happy!! and watching how this situation develops and hope Dev,s team work around this 1.1.1 upgrade.
Posted by Ernesto | September 28, 2007 1:11 PM
Do people really think that Steve Jobs wanted to lock down the iPhone? Don't you think he would prefer it to work on any network? This is telecom in the USA people. The only way to get a phone in the market is to partner with a cell provider, because ALL cell providers have locked networks in the USA. This is why you usually have to buy a new phone when switching networks.
People who hack their iPhones after spending $400+ on it deserve nothing. Use the equipment the way it is designed and you will have nothing to complain about.
Posted by Hank | September 28, 2007 1:33 PM
You know... I don't understand all the whining. Sure, hacking the phone is cool, but when a firmware update screws up because of changes you made to the firmware, don't complain about it!
FYI, there is not a law making it legal to unlock cell phones in the U.S. There is legislation in action preventing enforcement of the DMCA in regards to unlocking cell phones. It's not the same thing, and it's not permanent.
If you went and bought a new Chevy and you were unhappy that you got stuck with the crappy GM engine and transmission in it, and you took it out and put in a Hemi, would you expect GM to honor your warranty? Why is this any different? There's no law saying you can't do that, but they're under no obligation to fix if when you screw it up.
Posted by Tim H | September 28, 2007 1:53 PM
I think consumers have every right to expect to be able to use a device with any network using the same technology. Do you expect a Ford car to only run on Ford roads? That's _bulls**t_. If the cellular industry won't allow us to do that on their own, I honestly think the government should step in and force them to. Apple deserves universal scorn for going along with this scam and not even trying to put any pressure on the industry to change it. What right does anyone have to tell me I can't use the phone with t-Mobile or any other GSM network? And now, they're going and intentionally disabling the phone of anyone who felt they had a right to use _their_ device however _they_ want to? Apple should be SUED for that.
Posted by Sean Robertson | September 28, 2007 2:37 PM
Apple has been graceful to alert us with anticipation this was going to happen, but then a few dumb people STILL apply the update. Now they are kicking and screaming, after the fact.
I unlocked and hacked my phone, am very happy with my Tmobile account, can do everything at&t offers plus more, and pay less than half! I will wait or even stay in this firmware version, the "new features" are really not worth it compared with what I could lose (games, ringtones, "gps" etc.
When I unlock my phone I knew it was not going to be a free ride. We just have to wait and see.
Posted by jackster | September 28, 2007 4:40 PM
Nah, sorry guys, I ain't buying it.
And to all of you who are complaining about would you expect a Ford car to only run on Ford roads - er.. no... but then Ford don't say you can't.
You *knew* it was locked to AT&T. You accepted that term, by buying the phone. You hacked it. It's bricked. Suck it up.
If you didn't like the fact it was locked to one network - you did have a choice... it's not like Steve came around your house in the night and swiped 600 bucks from your wallet, is it?
Look in the mirror if you wanna whinge about the mess you got yourself into, then run out to an Apple store and hand over your 600 bucks like good little boys and consider it a lesson learnt.
Posted by Paul Gardner | September 28, 2007 5:35 PM
@ Hank: Apple share the responsibility for the locking with the network. This is because Apple have a revenue share deal with the networks selling the iPhone. If the phone is unlocked and moved to another network, Apple lose out on the revenue share.
Posted by David | September 28, 2007 6:04 PM
Tim H has it right. Apple never said they would support the phone on other networks besides ATT. If you didn't like that idea, you didn't have to buy it. Saying Apple should be sued is way off the mark.
Posted by o m g | September 28, 2007 6:15 PM
While I agree that it sucks that the iPhone is locked to AT&T anyone that buys it will be buying under them conditions. When you buy it you are agreeing that you are goign to use it on an AT&T netrwork.
If you modify the phone to work on another network you are making it do something it is not supposed to be doing. If this then causes problems later on for you this is your problem.
Using the post above "Do you expect a Ford car to only run on Ford roads?" No, but if you bought a car and was told "this will only run on ford roads" and then you tried to use it on Honda roads and it fell apart that would be your problem. You should have bought a Mazda in the first place that wasn't restricted to where it could drive.
I complete agree with the sentiment that as a consumer it sucks that you can only get the iPhone on one network. But from a business point of view it does make sense and nobody put a gun to your head and told you to buy one.
Original poster: Good info!
Posted by Paul B | September 28, 2007 6:25 PM
sean your talking out of your bum, , If you purchase a non contract phone frome apple then i would agree with you, but these phones are for contract purposes only, the contract states what you can or cant do, so how the hell can you sue apple when your the one breaking the contract
confused
Posted by PhoneJ4CKER | September 28, 2007 6:28 PM
It's enough to persuade me not to buy one!
Posted by Blade | September 28, 2007 7:20 PM
If I went and bought a new Chevy and was unhappy that I got stuck with the crappy GM engine and transmission in it, and I took it out and put in a Hemi, I definitely would not expect GM to honor your warranty?
But if I took it in for its first oil change and they gave it back to me with a gas tank full of sugar, I would be not be very happy at all.
Posted by Peter S | September 28, 2007 8:42 PM
"Apple deserves universal scorn for going along with this scam and not even trying to put any pressure on the industry to change it."
Uhm. Do you think Apple picked AT&T because they were such very nice people?
Apple auctioned the rights, by making it unilaterally appealing. Thats called business.
If you buy it from AT&T then unlock it and cancel your contract within the cooling off period, go ahead and use it on another network, what leverage does Apple have to sell the hardware exclusively?
You guys will find that Apple will fight this to the hilt.
Its no accident ffs.
Posted by Herv | September 28, 2007 9:47 PM
Keep in mind Apple is a hardware company, not a software company.
You can be damn sure they apple would support any and all custom software designed for the iPhone as it would only increase their sales.
The issue is AT&T. Because of their contract as the premier carrier, apple has no choice. AT&T could sue Apple into oblivion.
Posted by Derek | September 28, 2007 11:20 PM
Question. If a new hack becomes available, are you guys going to give it a shot again? Maybe it won't happen *two* times in a row. ;-)
Posted by Walt | September 28, 2007 11:47 PM
Apple is within its rights to contract with whomever it wants, and I don't expect them to honor a warranty on an unlocked iPhone. However, that doesn't mean that as consumers, we should just blindly accept everything and have no right to be disappointed at Apple for valuing the quick bucks from AT&T over the long-term customer relationships. It also doesn't mean that Apple should deliberately try to damage hacked products. A simple re-lock should be warning enough, but it seems that the update was designed not even to allow unlocked phones to connect with the original SIMs.
Instead of the Ford car/Ford roads example, pretend you had to use Dish Network with a JVC TV and Comcast with a Pioneer. I think most of us would agree that's a silly business model, and perhaps even afoul of "bundling" laws. However, for some reason the mobile phone industry developed as it did. Apple could have leveraged it's market presence to try to change that and open the market up (the way it did with iTunes), but instead they decided they liked the model so long as they could find a mobile carrier willing to go along with them. It's business, but it still leaves a bad taste.
Posted by KPO'M | September 29, 2007 12:22 AM
"Here's the thing; it's already been ruled illegal to actively prevent a consumer from unlocking a phone both in the US and in Europe."
That's not accurate for the U.S. The DCMA exception simply prevents you from being charged under the DCMA for unlocking your phone. It doesn't prevent a phone manufacturer or wireless carrier from trying to stop you from unlocking the phone.
Posted by Dan Frakes
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September 29, 2007 12:32 AM
"If I went and bought a new Chevy and was unhappy that I got stuck with the crappy GM engine and transmission in it, and I took it out and put in a Hemi, I definitely would not expect GM to honor your warranty?"
I wouldn't expect them to honor my warranty, but I would be outraged if GM came into my garage and sabotaged my car if I replaced the engine.
Posted by Paul | September 29, 2007 12:37 AM
I'm not asking for sympathy, I'm just reporting my experiences. I unlocked my phone to see if it would work, and then I ran the 1.1.1 update on my unlocked phone to see what would happen. Doing so before going out of town for a long weekend probably wasn't the best idea, but that's what we're willing to do for our readers :)
I won't say Apple intentionally bricked iPhones, but the company did know what the software update would do to certain phones and went ahead with it.
Posted by jonseff
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September 29, 2007 1:32 AM
"As for those of you defending Apple and Steve on this - all I can say is that I hope your collective lobotomies heal some day. Being a dedicated fan and user does NOT mean I will roll over for anything some corporate fascist tells me to. Apple is again exhibiting some nasty traits I never liked in them OR the Dark Side they are starting to resemble in more than their choice of chips - those of a megalomaniac control freak."
Look, dude, I know you are probably a Linux user and dress in black and walk around being happy with just how much better you are than the rest of us peons, but listen for just a sec...
1. People like phone
2. People go to buy phone
3. People are told, very clearly, what the terms of the phone are
4. People intentionally break these terms
5. Company warns people: breaking terms will brick your phone when you update
6. People update anyway
There is no amount of anti-corporate propaganda that can turn this into anything other than what it is: stupid people getting exactly what they asked for.
There is nothing to either defend or attack here.
Posted by Mattjumbo | September 29, 2007 1:44 AM
Call me silly but do you all remember when Steve told everyone at MacWorld in January that the iPhone was a "phone", iPod and and internet device?
Hey Steve. You bricked our "phones" where the heck is the rest of our device. If Apple wanted to get back at the hackers they should have just disabled the ablilty to use the ATT network not kill the rest of the device.
I think that the phone is only one part of this device.
I also am wondering how many of us pre-brickers are waiting to see what the Dev team can produce to relock the phones.
Posted by bdallas9
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September 29, 2007 1:47 AM
I just don't think it's fair that Apple is keeping the iPhone away from so many Apple users. Why not just make the unlocked version more expensive than the ATT version.
I live in the Middle East and I am sure we will never get the iPhone before 2009! So for Christmas I am going to buy iPhones for me and my kids. I just won't update until the good people out there keep finding solutions to these problems, anyhow you can't even have an iTunes account here!
Posted by Hiram | September 29, 2007 3:05 AM
What is wrong with unlocking your phone anyway, all I'm trying to do is save me some money when travelling to Asia. Living in Canda we don't have AT&T but I want to have this great gadget, so why should I be punished. This crap about having your phone bricked is totally evil in my opinion. Thanks to you Steve you made my first experience with Apple a rotten one.
All HAIL MICROSOFT!
Posted by Rey | September 29, 2007 3:32 AM
It's such a dumb strategy to alieniate your customers with small gadgets. they'll go away from your high end expensive equipment.
May be ATT's network deserves to be hacked and will go down in the end...
Posted by nicolas | September 29, 2007 8:37 AM
My iPhone showed the same SIM message and seemed to need re-activation after applying 1.1.1.
I want to Apple store and after long wait i got replacment.
:)
Posted by Rajko Odalovic | September 29, 2007 8:37 AM
There are no restrictions, legal or otherwise, for taking any other non-Apple phone that YOU BUY from one provider and use it on another provider's network. So, why does Apple have the right to "brick" the phone you bought and own with your good money just because you don't want to stay with AT&T? This is a perfect class action law suit waiting to happen ... Apple iPhone Users vs. Steve Jobs and Apple. This is clearly Steve Job's big ego, thinking he can control and stomp all over the legal rights of others. Join forces and sue this jackass!
Posted by Ray | September 29, 2007 9:55 AM
Most of these iPhone Central stories aren't relevant to the overwhelming majority of iPhone users. So why the obsession with third-party apps, third-party tones, network alternatives, and bricking? Most users use AT&T's network and don't really give a crap about third-party apps and your cute hip-hop ring tones.
No, thanks. I'll just keep my iPhone the way it was meant work. And it works remarkably well I might add. Being able to play a game of Reversi on my phone or using it on T-Mobile's three square mile network isn't worth the risk of bricking it.
Posted by Mark | September 29, 2007 11:04 AM
Bottom line is you void a warranty you cannot then go back to the manufacture and ask them to fix it when it does not work because you tampered with it. Every company in the US is the same on this. You mess with it at your own risk. I suggest next time heed the warranty advice
Posted by rgreen94 | September 29, 2007 11:37 AM
Well if you havent alreay spent your 100 rebate then you could get a new phone for on 300 out of your pocket
Posted by Knowtlon | September 29, 2007 1:08 PM
what if you tried to modify it but it never worked in the first place, but you restored the phone just in case? should it be fine? The restore worked fine. I haven't updated yet in fear my phone may get bricked.
Posted by punki | September 29, 2007 1:21 PM
Hate the ringtone limitation on the iPhone? If so, sign this petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/custom-ringtones-for-the-iphone
Posted by Stacy Bresler | September 29, 2007 1:37 PM
It isn't fair for people to continue using the term "Apple bricked my iPhone" -- Apple didn't brick anyone's iPhone. You, and only you, bricked it, by applying the update. Apple put out a *press release* days in advance, and even warned you when you clicked the update button in ALL CAPS AND BOLD LETTERING that if you had previously used unlocking software, the updater should not be run, as it would irreperably damange your iPhone and make it inoperable.
Like any Apple update, you can choose not to install the update forever and continue to use the same product that you purchased.
Apple has never forced anyone to update, and they certainly have never bricked anyone's phone. They've done everything reasonable to *prevent* bricking phones--beyond the call of duty, considering you've already violated your warranty agreement with them.
Posted by Scott | September 29, 2007 1:40 PM
Simply put, this IS malicious intent by Apple to brick people's iPhones who were using non-AT&T carriers. I mean, c'mon if they wanted to discourage people from using other carriers, they could just at least lock the iPhone...not brick it entirely and expect people to buy another one. This is really makes me sick. I wish I had not bought my iPhone in the first place.
I strongly hope the US Government internenes for the public good and examines Apple's sickening business practices.
Posted by Dan | September 29, 2007 1:53 PM
If it helps anyone hasn't updated yet; I had apptapp and many applications on my phone, though no sim unlock. I restored my phone and THEN did the update and it all worked fine.
No offense but I simply can't grasp updating your iPhone with hacks etc. on it when apple *very* clearly stated that doing so might screw your iPhone. I mean how much clearer could they have been?
Posted by Micah | September 29, 2007 2:39 PM
One of you guys said you did a restore to 1.0.2
My phone actually froze and got bricked while updating (a hacked one) from 1.0.1 to 1.0.2
How could i do a full restore to 1.0.2?
Any hints? I already have the firmware, i just have no idea how to install it on the phone.
Thx
Posted by David | September 29, 2007 3:54 PM
Can anyone else see the similarities here with Microsoft being found guilty of anti-competitive behaviours by the US and European courts for restricting consumers' choice over software [media player in Windows]?
Posted by IanD | September 29, 2007 5:32 PM
Regardless of whether you think Apple had the right to do what they did, a better question to ask was it the right thing to do. It can not be good business to tick off so many customers. It is certainly not good public relations. Instead of talking about surging sales and great products, the press will be talking about how Apple turned their customers phones into useless bricks and how they have all these outraged customers.
The thing is, they probably didn't have to disable the phones. The hackers were able to make changes without disabling it, do you really think Apple couldn't have done it. Oh, my opinion on it, the phones worked before the update, they didn't after, Apple broke them. And an awful lot of the unlocked phones out there are being used in other countries or areas that do not have AT&T so without the unlocks, these sales would have never happened. Apple benefited from these sales, and happily took their money.
I did not unlock my phone. I have no problem with AT&T. I tried third party apps but didn't really see anything I wanted so I took them off. My phone after the update works fine. I have been a huge fan of Apple but they have made a number of decisions lately that reek of arrogance and a total disregard of some of their biggest supporters. I still love my phone, but Apple has taken the joy away.
I have a feeling that in a week or two, Apple will try to play the hero and come up with something that activates the phones and people will be thanking them for being so kind. Apple will then say "from now on be a good customer and do what you are told."
Posted by rkinkade | September 29, 2007 6:23 PM
I finally broke down and bought an iPhone today at my local AT&T store. I'm off to Europe next week and I'd love to unlock it so I can use my UK Virgin Mobile SIM card, as I do with my Treo 650. I bought the Treo two years ago and Cingular (as it was then) gave me an unlock code a day after I bought it.
The AT&T sales person told me that I have to speak to Apple about getting the iPhone unlocked as it is Apple's decision to not allow it to be unlocked.
Until now I have been on Apple's side thinking it's an AT&T decision but since Apple has intentionally iBricked unlocked phones (not AT&T) I am beginning to wonder if Apple is the one insisting on keeping the iPhone locked and not AT&T?
Ironically, the iPhone is the fifth phone I have purchased from Cingular/AT&T in the past seven years and is the first one they could not unlock for me. I am a happy AT&T subscriber and all I want to do is use my iPhone with a local carrier in the UK so my family do not have to call my US number to contact me.
Come on Apple -- think of your loyal customers and allow us to unlock the iPhone so we can use it overseas with local carriers when we travel.
Posted by John Rettie | September 29, 2007 6:25 PM
Touch user here..glad I choose this over an iPhone hack. I can understand the relock....good business and I believe Apple and ATT have every right to protect their market. Bricking the phones though, that doesn't seem right. Charging a few dollars to restore would even be fair but stiff, IMO. Buying a new phone though as your only way back just seems like an unfit penalty for using the device. It's not like people were stealing minutes, music or anything, come 'on, be reasonable guys....
Posted by netzen7 | September 29, 2007 8:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see what happens when the iPhone is finally available in the UK - for two reasons:
1. It is illegal for a provider to change the IMEI on a cellphone in the UK (as is happening when iPhones get iBricked).
2. UK Networks are required by law to provide unlock codes (or an unlocking service) on request - although they are permitted to make a charge for this service.
I'm curious to discover whether Apple & o2 will have taken this into account - I find it hard to believe that o2 will have agreed to break the law in this case (hell, some of their phones are not even supplied network locked!)
Posted by jayenn | September 30, 2007 4:51 AM
Regardless of what you diehard fans think, this has REALLY affected the quality of the Apple brand. I don't have an iphone, however I was going to get one. But not now. I think I'll stick to something else.
It all feels a bit cloak and dagger and I don't feel I can trust this product.
I somehow feel that there is a sizable percentage of potential customers out there that feel the same.
I'll get a Nokia thanks.
Posted by gaz909 | September 30, 2007 5:19 AM
Is everyone here from US? Why do you stand up to this? Yes apple had a contract but did it say in that contract : "We will fuck up your phone if you don't obey us"? They said that "We will not support the phone if you hack the damn thing". To continue the Ford idea : If you were to drive Ford's car anywhere outside the roads Ford told you so some dude from Ford would sneak up on your car and burn the electric circuit!! Is that right? If you think it is then have a nice life. Oh and don't expect the gov to do anything you really do not matter.
Posted by IamStupid | September 30, 2007 5:22 AM
I am a software developer. I've done work for both Apple and Microsoft. So, I take a rather pragmatic view.
Apple is being a good partner to ATT. Locking in a device to a specific carrier is standard procedure for US Telecom. Making some effort to maintain the tie-in helps Apple negotiate with other carriers. This is good business. The iPod/Touch brings the iPhone UI to other customers who can't or won't switch carriers. This is a smart way to take up the slack.
Apple is also protecting their brand from 3rd party apps that may affect the user experience.
A developer on hackintOsh posted that he had forgotten how snappy the iPhone was until he reverted back to the original software. Someone with a sick iPhone can nix the sale of the next 10 iPhones.
But, as a developer, I'm looking for clues as to whether the iPhone is a good platform to develop for. In the next week, I will be buying new environments to develop for either the iPhone or the Nokia iphone knockoff.
Probably the final clue will be Apple CEO's response to this PR problem.
Posted by Musesum | September 30, 2007 11:54 AM
Have you tried this:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/unbricked-iphones-now-fully-working-calls-included-305253.php
or this:
http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/Downgrade_from_1.1.1_to_1.0.2
Posted by Gary Coughlin | September 30, 2007 12:10 PM
"Do people really think that Steve Jobs wanted to lock down the iPhone? Don't you think he would prefer it to work on any network? This is telecom in the USA people. The only way to get a phone in the market is to partner with a cell provider, because ALL cell providers have locked networks in the USA."
That's BS. Firstly, this is Apple we're talking about here. They have more than enough marketing clout (not to mention their own stores) to sell
phones unlocked. They could just put them on sale SIM free and they'd still fly off the shelves.
Secondly - if this was true then why is the phone also locked to a single provider in Europe, where this is NOT usual business practice for phone makers?
This is typical of the Lock-in behaviour that Apple oh so loves. "You vill use ziss device as you are instructed. OBEY US OR PERISH"
Posted by Ergates | September 30, 2007 1:54 PM
Hi i unlocked my iphone but the only thing is that when i make a phone call, i can hear them but they cannot hear me, does anybody have any solutions for this problem, thanks so much
Posted by joe zamzow | September 30, 2007 2:30 PM
This is to everyone threatening lawsuits, yeah i can see it as rough to users who unlocked their phones, but everything is in plain english for you:
First, the back of the box, easily readable before you open it: Requirements: two year wireless service plan with AT&T.
Second, the warranty description in the booklet included with the iPhone: Software distributed by Apple with or without the Apple brand name (including, but not limited to system software) is not covered under this Limited Warranty. This warranty does not apply to damage caused by use with non-Apple products.
And if you would have read the terms of use listed in iTunes during the activation process you would have read that activation with AT&T is required to use any functions of the phone.
Now, Apple gave everyone ample heads up by letting them know the upcoming updates would most likely render the device useless. And contrary to popular belief, there is no law in the USA requiring mobile phones manufacturers, or service providers to unlock or allow the unlocking of mobile phones. So even if Apple decided they did want to intentionally relock the phones, then they are completely allowed. And if you don't like it, don't buy their products or move to a country that is not a free market economy. And for those who live overseas and purchased an American iPhone, you knowingly took the risk when you purchased it.
On a side note, loving the updates Apple, keep them comin!!!!
Posted by smokey177 | September 30, 2007 10:43 PM
"No one tells you how to drive your car or what roads you can travel do they?"
Oliver, where the hell do YOU live?
Posted by Jon Laurie | October 1, 2007 2:58 AM
Apple.com indirectly promoted anySim (a 3rd party unlocking program) before disabling iPhones and should be responsible for replacing or reprogramming bricked units.
Apple.com promotes the use of third party applications at MacUpdate website:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashb...atewidget.html
MacUpdate.com offers the iPhone unlocking program AnySim 1.0 for download.
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25818
Since Apple.com refers it's customers to this other website that offers anySim, couldn't people hold Apple responsible for the bricking/disabling/renderingUseless, etc... of our iPhones?
Apple.com recommends MacUpate.com as a source of third party applications for it's products. Someone with more time than me needs to look into holding Apple accountable for the damage they caused to thousands of iPhones. This link between Apple and anySim should be more than enough...
(I have screen shots and links to Google's cache of these links if Apple tries to cover this up)
Posted by Uri Schorch | October 1, 2007 3:52 AM
The key to the legality of this is only the intent, and that can be proved through the code. If Apple's release of firmware was designed, and more importantly coded, ONLY to provide upgrade to the functionality, then they have no case to answer. When one chooses to use the hardware for a purpose Apple did not intend - as specified - they are within their rights to no longer support the product. If, however, ANY of the changes to the code are unnecessary for providing new functionality, or have been coded purposefully in such a way to penalise those using their phone for other purposes, then they are actively seeking to prevent customers from using their purchase in any manner they see fit. Once purchased, Apple relinquish ANY right to describe how the unit should be operated. Any attempt to restrict that is illegal.
Posted by Dirty_Idea | October 1, 2007 9:38 AM
This is covered by the same antitrust legislation that various companies have been going against Microsoft with for years. It's illegal collusion to further monopolies (such as AT&T). Apple bedded down with AT&T so they would get a percentage for service sales.
As has been mentioned, Apple had other options than "bricking" the hacked/unlocked iPhones (and, I've heard, even some non-modified ones). The option Apple chose is equivalent to throwing a stone through the window of a house, meaning it's intentional vandalism.
I have a Mac iBook and I've owned an iPod (it got stolen in Vegas). I've since purchased a SanDisk, which has more features at about $40 less for the size I was using. Unfortunately, this, as well as the DRM issues with iTunes, has severely soured my view of Apple.
Ironic that Mac is so bent on running universally with Windows and Unix so that Windows, Mac, and OpenSource (Linux) software can be run. But when it comes to playing music downloaded from their store, you are limited to the number of devices you can store it on, and what software can play it.
Posted by Vlad | October 1, 2007 12:39 PM
Some Lead some follow. It's patriotic to go fight for our country, and u gotta be a Dem to criticize the Military types, but at the end of the day, you don't whine with the low(er) gas price, or the lower priced iPhone.
For those of you wearing thongs and skirts on the side lines and criticizing the ones willing to risk it all - you are pathetic. iCan therefore iDo!!!
Let's have an Apple Cider Party in the Boston Harbor! Anyone left with guts??
Guess not too many - the best are in Iraq.
Posted by WinnaMac | October 1, 2007 4:02 PM
Don't worry, Apple is not that bad to REALLY brick our iPhones. iPhone Devs will be releasing a solution very soon :) Until then,enjoy your music and mobile internet experience!! Thank god I was in class (Programming) when the update was released. When I was done with it, everyone were whining about wat all happened with 1.1.1 or else I wud have upgraded and bricked my overpriced gadget!!
Posted by Kiran | October 1, 2007 4:22 PM
There's a 10-step fix for a "bricked" iPhone on ZDNet:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=2475&tag=nl.e622
I don't know if it works. I guess it's left as an exercise for the students to figure it out! LOL
Posted by Colin | October 1, 2007 6:06 PM
I can confirm that the unbricking works -- at least partly. More shortly.
Posted by Jason Snell
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October 1, 2007 6:08 PM
I think the point is less that the "bad" guys who hacked the phone deserve to suffer -is more that Apple seems to have bricked the phones intentionally and that is were the fine line between "not supporting" and "being proactive against" is - the latter is not mentioned in the the user agreement.
PS: my phone is not hacked, only some iToner ringtones and I am not sure yet if I upgrade or not, I like'em
Posted by grimmrad | October 1, 2007 6:19 PM
my brother figured out how to UNBRICK A BRICKED IPHONE HAHA........
first off you need to click this link and download this file
http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/061-3823.20070821.vormd/iPhone1,1_1.0.2_1C28_Restore.ipsw
after the file finishes downloading you need to unzip the folder and then double click on the icon inside of the folder. This will open up itunes, connect ur phone to itunes and click restore, and then just wait. (the file you downloaded is an older version of apple firmware for the iphone) when its finished restoring your phone will be fixed. FYI, you will have to reload all of ur music and whatnot onto your phone.
if you are still having problems email my brother at brainno911@gmail.com
and he will help you out
PS. i am doing this so u dont lose $400 bucks, and the fact that your iPhone is already broke try this, trust me it works!
Posted by Shane | October 1, 2007 7:18 PM
can I restore factory settings before I update I know it would be inconvient but i didnt know what my brother was talking about when he said he was gonna unlock my phone
Posted by trunnerrunner | October 3, 2007 12:54 AM
is the method above used for mac only? i have got the sim card error after updating.. my iphone is basically not usable in itunes, it says get a new sim card from att.
Posted by Sunil | October 3, 2007 10:28 AM
To everyone blaming apple, please stop. You made the choice to hack your phone or bought a hacked phone. Its called "hack" for a reason and its always gonna void a products warranty. By hacking the iPhone then complaining about Apple's lack of assistance, it is you who are spitting in Apple's face. Not the other way around. You can patiently wait for "hackers" to provide you a reliable fix for this issue.
Posted by Mac_Mike | October 3, 2007 3:58 PM
Hi,
Currently at Apple stores, what is the iPhone version which I get if I buy it now? will it be 1.1.1 or 1.0.2?
I want to be sure that I get the previous version. How can I be sure?
Thanks,
Dan
Posted by Dan | October 3, 2007 4:22 PM
I don't think anyone is crying about Apple not helping them. I think people are complaining that Apple actively sabotaged them. WhyTF did they do that? It is a malicious act and people are rightfully angry. I'm not happy that I can't run games on the damn thing. Last night I installed 1.1.1 because my iPhone was hanging up and I was hoping it would help. Now I find I've killed my ability to add 3rd party games. Now I'm upset that Apple has effectively added a virus to my mobile computer without warning me. To me there should have been a warning "THIS UPDATE WILL CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS IF YOU ADDED OR PLAN TO ADD 3RD PARTY APPS".
That is a fair warning!
Posted by Joe Robinson | October 3, 2007 5:46 PM
I have heard that unlocked GSM iphones are susceptible to becoming inoperative if any kind/form of an Apple update is installed. So if there is a firmware update or even itunes or safari update do not download and install into iphone. Apple has imbedded a virus that will reset illegal unlocked phones. The phone will need to be unlocked again if an update is installed. Apple is trying to stop the sales of hacked/unlocked gsm phones.
Posted by Stephen Abad | October 3, 2007 6:25 PM
Wow, you people spend hundreds of dollars on a new phone, and within a few weeks, you go messing with it because "someone I know did it". Geeze, Now you can't get yur phone working, you have a 2 yr contract, and was told not to mess with the phone. I work for AT&T in Customer service, you know, the people you call when you are having problems w/ yur phone? I'm getting a lot of calls now about activations, but I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of SIM card calls soon because of this mess. I bought my iPhone at full price, I'm scared to even take my SIM card out...let alone to mess with it. All I can say is: You play, you pay.
Posted by JDtheDJ | October 5, 2007 1:19 AM
Anyone familiar with "Technological Neutrality" or "Network Neutrality" principles?
I believe the same principle should be applied to iPhone.
Apple committed a "mass murder" to its "constituency" (i.e. patrons) Why??!!!
Apple execs and eng'rs are no dimwits! They have foreseen that; and most probably part of their strategic planning & contingencies; that the fact that THEY ARE ADVERTISING MAC OS X as the O/S that drives the iPhone, it is moot-and-academic that some developer would really hack or tweak its technical underpinnings.
Now, why the "murder"?
Because having the prescient of all these things to happen, Apple still DELIBERATELY pushed for the "crippling module" to be included in its firmware update. The keyword there is "DELIBERATE"; there is the act for "PRE-MEDITATION" on the part of Apple to do this idiocy!
OR....
is it really more like just to save Apple's face in front of AT&T executives whom probably they've promised that the iPhone is gonna be a "CLOSED SYSTEM" for a "certain period"? And that certain period was prematurely breached with the iPhoneSIMFree software. That pretty much would dismay AT&T execs who were there in the negotiation table with Apple execs.
AT&T thought that they could exclusively get a "not-entirely-free-ride" to Apple, Inc.'s "resurrected image" - a brand-tie-up/association thingie!
Ooooppps... somebody's been had... and you know who that is, hehhee.
I've always lauded Apple for its products which are epitomes of fine fusion of ART and TECHNOLOGY. But if it is gonna bully on its customers and tramples on their RIGHTS, then a hell lot of lawyers would be salivating to take a CLASS ACTION SUIT to court defending these bunch of disgruntled customers.
The practice of SIM-Locking had always been there in the wireless telco industry; and pretty much mobile handset makers like Nokia, Motorola, SonyEricsson, et. al. had been used to this kind of setup to "sweeten-up" volume deal purchases for their new handsets because wireless telcos usually subsidized a greater part of the cost of the handset; and binds the subscriber to a certain service period.
But in my country where the density for mobile handset is almost choking, often you would see individuals having three mobile (from 3 different wireless telcos) phones at the same time; UNLOCKING THE MOBILE HANDSET is A NON-ISSUE!
Nokia, SonyEricsson, or any entrenched player in the mobile handset business never had contemplated of "CRIPPLING" the unit because you have it UNLOCKED for other mobile networks!
Apple is starting to do the Microsoft-way! It can after all, with all its technical and eng'g prowess, identify an UNLOCKED PHONE; have it marked for some VOID in WARRANTY; or NOT UPLOAD a FIRMWARE UPDATES if identifies "packages" for that unlocking software; But NEVER, NEVER, an instance it should CRIPPLE the UNIT.
Posted by Z-mastah! | October 5, 2007 2:00 AM
Maybe someone has already mentioned this, I didn't read every single comment, but did anyone actually read the entire user license agreement? I know that I never do! Anyway, the point is I'm pretty sure Apple would put a clause in there stating that unlocking/hacking the iPhone violates the user agreement and therefore you're pretty much screwed.
I know it sucks that they bricked a bunch of iPhones, but by clicking "I Accept" most people agree to a bunch of BS they don't even know about. Maybe I'm wrong...
When I modded my original Xbox I was warned by a void warranty sticker that had to be destroyed to open the case. I know the Xbox hardware and iPhone software mods are different, but the point is the same
Did Apple warn you about modding/unlocking/hacking?
Posted by SimpleChamp | October 7, 2007 8:55 PM
Hi every one, I updated my phone it was not unlocked but it was modified with ibrick. I updated blindly to the new iphone updated in itunes not knowing my phone was going to get crippled (bricked). If any one found the way to fix this please let me know I getting desperate. Thanks.
Posted by lomax2004 | October 7, 2007 11:06 PM
Only today o bought the Device & i make the same idiot thing (Update).
before i read that article i thiught that the problem is so easy & its going to be solved but now i wanna Kill my self :(
Posted by William | October 10, 2007 7:59 PM
can someone please tell me if my iphone is bricked or not????WHAT SHOULD I DO
.my phone doesnt show any sim error message
.it isnt reading any kind of sim
.i cant listen to music or videos becus no sound
.i can still use my third party apps (nes games etc
.a memory error shows up wen i use safari or mail
.i never updated to 1.1.1 or any software
.on the top left corner where it suppose to say At&T it shows ...
Posted by Cire | October 12, 2007 7:08 PM
Well it's messed up that apple bricked the iphone, Im intrested in buying iphones for 200.00 gb. and 150 for the 4gb for parts. please call me if you would like to sell your merchandice. 310-600-4040 Shawn
Posted by Shawn | October 13, 2007 5:22 PM
Z-Mastah! wrote,
"Maybe someone has already mentioned this, I didn't read every single comment, but did anyone actually read the entire user license agreement? I know that I never do! Anyway, the point is I'm pretty sure Apple would put a clause in there stating that unlocking/hacking the iPhone violates the user agreement and therefore you're pretty much screwed.
I know it sucks that they bricked a bunch of iPhones, but by clicking "I Accept" most people agree to a bunch of BS they don't even know about. Maybe I'm wrong...
When I modded my original Xbox I was warned by a void warranty sticker that had to be destroyed to open the case. I know the Xbox hardware and iPhone software mods are different, but the point is the same
Did Apple warn you about modding/unlocking/hacking?"
I was going to write the same thing, until I read this. I did the same thing with my PS2 about 5 years ago. With video game consoles, if you open them, it voids any warranty. I don't know if iPhones are the same, but I am assuming that Apple mentions this somewhere in the User Agreement.
I agree that it sucks if you have a bricked iPhone now, but if you tried to hack/unlock an iPhone against Apple's wishes, then you truly took a risk and you have to buy a new one.
Posted by Danny | October 16, 2007 1:42 AM
Dear All:
I live in China, and bought a new iPhone two days ago. Having been traveling the last weeks and being rushed as I was leaving Hong Kong I purchased a new iPhone that has been modified to allow it to use other SIM cards.
It was good for the first day, until I tried to synch it with iTunes and made the error of updating the software.
I can confirm it "Bricks." The phone is now locked, possibly as if it were a new phone waiting for AT&T's help to activate it.
This is an age where companies are getting larger and larger, and MS was just punished in Europe for anti-trust, and Apple may not be far behind.
My question is, "What does Apple and Steve Jobs have to gain?" I have been using Apple computers for about 7 years, and am currently switching my whole office to Mac.
I was going to buy a Nokia N (whatever) because I need something that can synch with my office. What could the possible advantage be for Apple to lock people to one Network?
A friend of mine is an engineer and Mac Guru. He lives in Switzerland. He will not by an iPhone unless it happens to be on his service provider. If Apple picks a different provider, aren't they just freezing themselves out?
I am sure it seemed like a good idea at the time, during a marketing strategy brainstorming session when Apple thought "Our clients are so loyal, they will switch providers just to get our products."
They could have sold millions more than they have if thye had just released the dammed phone and let people put their SIM cards from where they wished.
Leave it to the market forces, consumers are fickle and times are a changing. I hope iPhones do not become a symbol of ignorance, an Orwellian example of following the masses, giving into the system and being controlled.
Wasn't 1984 not supposed to be like "1984?"
I am sure many readers and AT&T clients will jeer at my situation, which is fine. Personally the money i snot the issue. The fact that by the time Apple picks "partners around the world to run their iPhones they will have lost millions of sales, and more phone specific dedicated companies like Nokia et al. will see the differences, see what works or does not, and improve on it.
I am sure people will rehack the iPhone soon. I met a guy 7 weeks ago that had bought one of the first hacked ones in HK. It had super slim SIM that sat on his regular SIM that allowed it to work. He had paid 1400 Euros for the honor of having the first iPhone in HK.
Again with a question, If so many people are dedicated to trying to get these phones to work with other service providers, why is Apple dead set against it?
As somebody that has used Apple's products for years and championed them to some extent extolling the virtues and superiority, I have also seen that Apple has trouble admitting they were wrong. Take the one button mouse for example. Cute, but, time to move on.
We'll see how this goes, but for now I guess I will buy a Nokia. After all they synch works pretty well, right?
Posted by Kosmo | October 26, 2007 8:44 AM
I am from Canada and bought an unlocked iphone for 550 pounds in London, $1100. Read a lot of comments and its seems like there is 2 groups of people the ones who can't afford to get the iphone and are pissed and say you should have read the Contract, boooowoooo, you little pricks. The second more intelligent group that say that apple is potentially making a mistake due to their financial greed. All I know is that this is my phone I paid for it and you are going to punish me because you do not get your cut from the service provider of your choosing. I hope to be around for a long time and trust me this will not be forgotten let see who needs who, I have other choices when it comes to my future electronic purchases.
If comparison has to be made to the iphone lets not use cars and modifying them, but how about lets say we buy a new computer from lets say HP and we have to use an internet provider of their choosing or the computer will fry when we try to bypass.
How many of us would buy an HP then.
Posted by computerilliterate | October 29, 2007 7:24 PM
I strongly suggest not updating the software, i unlocked the iphones several times till i updated it.
my case its kinda different, i can use the iphone its activated and jaibroken but i cant make calls. my imei is the same as the back of the iphone.
but i guess i have the software that doesnt let you make calls, i have tried several times restore it and sometimes with success. and still the iphone cant make calls.
I would suggest buying an iphone from ebay with 1.1.1 software update and not updating or installing any software to the phone. please be aware of this, or you phone would get bricked.
is a great lost for mac/apple to do this specially for me that i still defend and support mac/apple against pc users. i have made alot of people to buy mac computers and this is a real shame that apple treat us this way.
i really feel apple has slapped us on our faces!!
Iam looking forward to get the iphone unbricked, any suggestions? would iphonesimfree work? doest it work to unbrick the phone?
Cheers!!!
Posted by Manuel Arguello Motta | October 30, 2007 2:33 PM
Can anyone tell me whether I can claim the warranty of the i-phone(unlocked/hacked) in case any problem other than locking/unlocking arises in the set ?
Posted by Utsav | November 11, 2007 6:51 AM
There are ways to unbrick your phone... You need to revirginize your phone.. Look that up online.. long steps, but there are ways to recover.. Apple "Genius" my butt.
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Posted by WILLIAMS | November 17, 2007 11:12 AM
YES! it is possible to recover an ibricked phone which upgraded to 1.1.2, and restore both the secpack and restore the original Imei #
It a little involved for the noob but very much possible.
If you have any question email me @ torrentseduction@gmail.com
Posted by Maldito | November 17, 2007 2:23 PM
This happened to me 11-17-07 the only thing is I did NOT hack my iphone. I was using a magnetic case. Apple store stated that I hacked the phone which pissed me off. I signed a two year contract with AT&T and have been a loyal customer. I have no need to hack!
Posted by Kyle | November 19, 2007 4:05 PM
I had an 1.1 firmware and upgraded to 1.2 before that i had opto application which asked me to update the firmware. Then i ran the jailbreak application. Then i changed the libexec/lockdownd file and then added the file /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreTelephony.framework/Support
.plist file of my country carrier , some how my phone seems to be rebooting and in the logs of the iphone i have lots of spring board crashes . I am not able to detect the iphone from Itunes as well. Please let me know how can i restore the software to original condition so that i can upgrade the phone .
Please let me know on this .
Dilip
Bangalore , India
Posted by Dilip Kumar S | November 27, 2007 1:57 PM
Well I'm sure everyone's noticed by now that Apple has released the 1.1.2 update for the iPhone, and I'd be interested to know how much (if it all) this has helped iBricked phones.
I have been a PC loyalist (I know, eww) for most of my life, based on the fact that I know popular PC hardware and software like the back of my hand. However, Apple has been tugging at my sleeve the last couple years, and I now own two iPods and an iPhone. The first iPod is a much older version, and it died on me not too long ago, alas the famed Geniuses were of no help to me.
Needless to say I purchased a full 3 year extended warranty from Best Buy when I acquired my second one.
When I found out that there was NO extended warranty available for the iPhone, not from AT&T or Apple, I was both confused and nervous about my purchase.
NOW I SEE WHY!!!
Apple LOVES bricking their products. You don't live in the US? TOO BAD!! I am born and raised in America, but this is the one thing I can't stand about Americans.
For all you dorks out there making comparisons to automobile warranties, get a clue. You can change several parts of an engine (intake, spark plugs, exhaust, etc.) without voiding a standard warranty.
But more importantly, look at how hard Google is working to get out a mobile OS that is 3rd-party friendly. In this age of tech, people want to be able to fit their devices to what they need. I mean, look at how many people this move pissed off.
THIS is the reason I will never own a Mac. Until I can dive into a Mac and easily make modifications to the hardware, I will never own one. And after all this arrogance by Apple over the iPhone, I almost (not quite) wish I had went with a Windows Mobile. IMHO, this is the thought process of many PC owners out there today.
Posted by Evan | November 28, 2007 12:31 PM
well my husband bought me an iphone and unlocked it and also ibricked it. that was around october, now around the ends of november i started updating my customize and loading all kinds of neat things, then my phone froze and then my phone crashed. itunes or my computer wouldn't recognize it and i tried restoring, nothing worked so i looked up in the internet about problems with iphones and i tried the following, (the thing is that the phone would be restored and all data will be lost and phone will be updated), i had itunes opened and my iphone was connected to the computer, then i pressed and held the sleep/wake button and home button at the same time until i got a message with a triangle on the phone that said to connect to itunes, i went to my itunes and saw that it had finally recognized my phone and did a restore. my husband is going to ibrick it again and downgrade it hopefully it won't crash again, but if it does then i will repeat the process and hopefully everything will be fine, if not then i am assed out and forced to get a different phone or a new iphone.
Posted by esmemike | November 30, 2007 3:46 AM
Even, you said: "For all you dorks out there making comparisons to automobile warranties, get a clue. You can change several parts of an engine (intake, spark plugs, exhaust, etc.) without voiding a standard warranty."
re: Auto analogy... I owned a Chevrolet dealership for 10 years and worked in warranty at another dealership for 5yrs. Changing ANYTHING related to the power-train, does indeed VOID the factory warranty. eg: Putting racing headers or modifying the stock exhaust on your new Mustang will void your emissions warranty. Same goes for your other example: intake. Spark plugs will void the warranty if they are like the split fires or any other non-compliant spark plugs.
I'm not trying to come off as a know it all it's just you are coming off as a know it none. Know what you talking about before calling a bunch of strangers "Dorks" and to "Get a clue" when you are the King of Clueless
Posted by MacMann | December 6, 2007 6:00 AM
pls help me, what will i do, after i updated my iphone, i cannot open it now, errow sim. im in saudi right now.. pls help me...
Posted by ysah | December 8, 2007 12:33 PM
i have a unlocked iphone 1.1.1, do you think its worth risking the update to the newer version? is there a way i can update my iphone without it affecting my phone?
Posted by jack | December 10, 2007 11:56 AM
I dont trust Apple as far as i can chew em up and spit em! I decided i wasnt going to bother with the iphone until they dealt with the issues with their ipods ie. constantly freezing up and requiring resets, and it looks like this same fault has migrated across to the iphone! How can a global company like this get away with providing shoddy goods? They should be forced to find the cause of the problem and NOT tell you "oh just reset it when it happens" Thats absolute Shite! Apple are just a bunch of cowboys as far as im concerned, they need to look seriously into their products and resolve issues before putting stuff out for sale! and now to add insult to injury the loosers are deliberately trashing property that belong to other people, I agree that they SHOULD be sued for this act, once the iphones are bought by the customer the product no longer belongs to Apple so what right do they have to deliverately ruin other peoples property!?
My cousin unfortunately fell foul to Apples sugar coated piece of sh*t and bought one 4 weeks ago when it was first released in sheffield UK (they only sold 17 on the day of the launch in the 4th biggest city in UK thats how much we trust and love apple.
Can you believe my cousins phone has totally F*cked up already and he's done nothing to try to unlock the handset as he's been an 02 customer for years and is totally happy with them! I warned him before buying that Apple are a bunch of cowboys who dont have a clue but he took the risk and is now regretting severely! the iphone only looks pretty, other than that its a glorified piece of Kack produced by a bunch of clueless morons!
Posted by coolmo | December 14, 2007 6:25 AM
If i get an unlocked iphone, when i sync it to my PC, will it work even though I am not on the AT&T or O2 Networks?
Posted by stapler27 | December 22, 2007 4:33 PM
i bought the phone unlocked and it was working perfectly fine wih any Sim Card. Everything was going perfectly fine until i accidentally upgraded the phone to 1.1.2 in iTunes... as this iphone has been unlocked already, the upgrading didnt work. when i restarted the phone, it showed the error "Incorrect Sim". i tried buying an unlocking software which told me to use iBrickr and that took the phone to the springboard, everthing works; such as the WiFi but the sim still doesnt work. Even the AT&T sim doesnt seem to work now. i read that "Re-Virginising" the phone could help... does anyone know what i could do next???
Posted by saamy | December 25, 2007 9:04 AM
The same happen to my new 1.2.1 OTB iPhone, please let me know a solution for restore to 1.0.2 because the iTunes freeze in "waiting for the iphone"
:(
Posted by Oscar | December 29, 2007 10:58 AM
Does anyone remember why Apple almost failed the first time around? Microsoft allowed others while Apple said use what I give you, period! Well here they go again trying to dominate what is being used on another one of their products. F them. I wouldnt buy their overpriced status symbol crap.
But my wife gets a laptop from work that works quite well but that was free;)
Posted by Istok | January 13, 2008 5:01 AM
Update 1.1.3 will unbrick most iPhones!!!
Posted by Trev | January 17, 2008 11:41 PM
Hi,
I am using unlocked(Ver: 1.1.1) Iphone.How to uplode the songs and other data, like photoes,nots,etc to my unlocked Iphone.Please help me regarding this.
Posted by Rao | January 30, 2008 5:52 AM
Ok seems some of you are having problems. I only read back a few and read the first thread, we'll c how many people actually re read this long thread, but anyway. I can help. send me email if you want. I also want to know what the guy did in the beggining of this thread with his 1.1.1 i phone, did he get rid of it, if not I would love to purchase it. I have 2 iphones both hcked. 1.0.2 and a 1.1.1 love um, only because of all the extras you can do once hcked. would never buy one from the store and sign that ridiculous contract... there are good sites on the web to look at for help.... start at
hacktheiphone.com
and modmyifone.com
try there, lots of shit there, if you want help from me, post here or email me... no worries, I love my iphone, I am in the UK at the moment on an old orange sim card . works awesome, girl is on t mobile in the Uk works great, hope the hackers keep it up. also. please donate to there cause they are doing a wonderfull job abd I really hope apple opens up its eyes and hires them to create apps for all of us....
sorry to ramble
be good people...
later
Posted by No,ALL! | February 4, 2008 7:17 AM
Ive jailbroke all firmware versions and succesfully unlocked everyone of them with at&t. Its probably your baseband. On the phone do the *#307# thing then ulock from there. after the phone is unlocked put it into itunes and restore it. wow people are slow. They cant tell if you messed with the software. or firmware. There just apple
any questions at all, email me
you didnt need to buy another phone
Posted by the 13 year old kid who can do more than a dumb apple store | February 6, 2008 11:51 PM
hi i have a problem with my iphone...it show the itunes logo and the cable in the screen i restart the phone,i restored on itunes...need help please
Posted by oliver villarreal | February 10, 2008 11:11 PM
I was reading a few stories about ppl getting their phones in the so called IBRICK mode .. well couldnt agree more, apple is a manufacturer and nothing else so naturally we dont owe them nothing for making a product that WE PAID A HIGH PRICE get locked. I wasnt really into this phone unlocking thing untill iphone came out and before anything else, there was a hype about how to unlock it. Once bricked, you cant even use it as an ipod or use wifi so basically you're stuck with something YOU paid for and well... its completely useless now.
I wish people could just get the phone for a fixed price and use it with whatever networks they like. Apple's a good company with reliable products though im sure iphone wasnt a pretty addition to the current product line
Posted by mani | February 21, 2008 7:04 AM
hi People!
i just baught this **** iphone...today..800$ can..worked very perfectly before conection to itunes..now i cant do nothing...major question: phone was purchased unlock..now its sort of locked..if i unlock it again will it return to normal working state? pls write back..thank u people...this is very sad thing..i hope that everybody who has suffered from this gets chance to get complete payback in any form.:)
Posted by igor from canada | February 23, 2008 2:13 AM
@igor
Pleas go to ziphone.org .. this is wonderful tool to unlock .. very simple and easy..
sumit
Posted by sumit | February 28, 2008 1:09 AM
Hi,
I have a problem and I need help.
I am from Guam (a tiny island in the Pacific that's U.S. territory)
Anyway, we don't have AT&T, Virgin Mobile, Cingular, or Sprint as any of our carriers.
So a few months ago, my dad bought me an unlocked iPhone for my birthday.
I've been very happy with it and no one else here has one.
But the day before yesterday, I was on iTunes and it asked me if I wanted to download the latest software for my iPhone.
I pressed yes, not knowing what I would get.
When it finished downloading,
it said that AT&T doesn't support this SIM or something.
& on my iPhone, there is just a picture of the iTunes logo and the charging cable.
In the left corner it says "NO SERVICE" even though my SIM card is in it.
It also says slide for emergency, when I slide it, it takes me to the numbers keypad.
I dailed some numbers to see if it would call, but it wouldn't.
I've tried everything!
I took out my SIM and put it back,
I tried restoring it on iTunes, but it won't get out of the screen that says, "This SIM is not supported by AT&T"
I can't restore it with my iPhone because it won't take me to the screen where all my icons are.
I really need help!
Can anyone tell me what to do or how I can fix this?
Posted by iPhone owner from Guam | March 4, 2008 2:54 AM
I've changed my iphone 3 times but also with this I have the same problems: freezed or black screen, or "call ending" message pending for minutes after a call...I did several times what apple suggests in the web site but nothing changed.
I think I'll go again in an apple store to ask my "working" money back (IS ONLY ONE WEEK FROM THE LAST CHANGE)and I'll give them their "not working" iphone.
GOOD I did'n buy a new Imac!
Posted by samantha | March 19, 2008 8:30 PM
Can anyone give me solution for this problem.
my new 1.1.3 iPhone, please let me know a solution for restore to 1.0.2 because the iTunes freeze in "waiting for the iphone"
ahamed2k@gmail.com
Posted by Ahamed | March 20, 2008 1:57 PM
Sheesh.
I dont know what to think. Why hasn't anyone ever gotten all flustered over the LG Voyager? Or the Helio Ocean? I have been wanting to unlock those since they came out.
Why don't you all write to them too?
If you think there fascist, well they are, and they can be. Its THEIR product.
It's illegal to download music illegally, if you do it, fine. But don't flip out when you get fined.
Should it be illegal? Thats debateable.
IS it Illegal? YES.
In the end, it was YOU who broke the rules.
Don't cry when you get caught for doing something you werent supposed to.
Posted by James Michael | March 26, 2008 4:20 PM
I agree with James.
GET OVER IT!
Learn to read the fine print when you buy something.
Take responsibility for your own actions instead of placing the blame on others.
Well, now you know - never update an unlocked iphone on itunes, because the system keeps track of all IMEIs and the system's program knows when an iphone is unlocked (hacked).
That is why I like Microsoft products - easy to hack into and I never experience the problems that most of you novice hackers encounter.
OH, and by the way, I actually have an unlocked iphone that does updates from itunes without receiving errors after the updates. YOU KNOW WHY?
Because, I know what the hel* I am doing.
Posted by YouRallFools | April 13, 2008 11:44 AM
hey james michael... maybe your a good one. can you share some of you supernatural skill to get over with this.
Posted by Kidbuntu | April 24, 2008 6:05 AM
I just got my iPhone 2days ago and works really good that is what I am writing this on
Posted by michael liford | April 28, 2008 1:07 AM
I work for Sprint/Nextel and have sold all other carriers at one point... That being said I believe it is wrong to produce a phone that will theoreticaly work on any GSM network but lock it to one specific network... I travel extensivly throughout the world and need to be able to switch between as many as 4 sim cards... I have always bought unlocked phones for that reason.
Locking handsets should be made illegal as it creates a monopoly... Both for AT&T and Apple
Amazingly this was a topic of conversation a few months back in congress... Seems like even congressmen want an iPhone but cant get one due to the Government not having a contract with AT&T...
I understand that the iPhone will relock itself after an update since you are updating to a new (factory) version of the software...
Those of you that say we get what we deserve should go live in a communist country for a while and see if you like being told where to work, what to think and even what to eat...
Posted by Andy | April 30, 2008 12:00 PM